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Preparations for Next Moonwalk Simulations Underway (and Underwater)<\/h1>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n![\"One](\"https:\/\/images-assets.nasa.gov\/image\/AFRC2026-0179-08\/AFRC2026-0179-08~large.jpg?w=1920&h=1280&fit=clip&crop=faces%2Cfocalpoint\")
<\/a><\/figure>\nDerek Abramson, Dale Reed Subscale Flight Research Laboratory chief engineer, left, communicates with the Edwards Air Force Base air traffic control tower for approval to fly the Alta-X drone near NASA\u2019s Armstrong Flight Research Center in Edwards, California, on Thursday, Aug. 27, 2026. Justin Link, small uncrewed aircraft pilot, second from left, and laboratory chief pilot Justin Hall await flight clearance. Researchers at NASA\u2019s Johnson Space Center in Houston developed the advanced guidance and navigation system known as the Safe and Precise Landing \u2013 Integrated Capabilities Evolution (SPLICE) experiment, which is installed on the Alta-X. SPLICE will help spacecraft land precisely and detect and avoid potential hazards, which is critical for NASA missions to the Moon and to Mars.<\/div>\nNASA\/Ryan Kline<\/div>\n<\/figcaption><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\nLong before they helped shape NASA\u2019s future aerospace breakthroughs, Derek Abramson, Justin Hall, and Justin Link were in their garages and homes building radio\u2011controlled aircraft, testing new ideas, and flying their creations at hobby events. That early passion now fuels the work of NASA\u2019s Dale Reed Subscale Flight Research Laboratory at the agency\u2019s Armstrong Flight Research Center in Edwards, California.<\/p>\n
At NASA Armstrong\u2019s subscale flight lab<\/a>, the team turns that lifelong enthusiasm into mission-focused innovation. The laboratory supports research that ranges from advanced navigation systems for future landings on the Moon and Mars to emerging aeronautics concepts that need quick, low-cost evaluation. NASA\u2019s small, remotely piloted and autonomous aircraft allow engineers to explore ideas that could be difficult, risky or expensive to test at full scale.<\/p>\nSkilled team<\/strong><\/h2>\nAbramson, Hall, and Link play key roles in that work. Abramson serves as the laboratory\u2019s chief engineer. Hall is the chief pilot. Link is a drone pilot. Together, they integrate emerging aerospace technologies with the lab\u2019s subscale aircraft fleet and, when needed, design and build aircraft or flight experiments to evaluate new concepts.<\/p>\n
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<\/a><\/figure>\nDerek Abramson, chief engineer at the Dale Reed Subscale Flight Research Laboratory at NASA\u2019s Armstrong Flight Research Center in Edwards, California, is shown with his Kalt Cyclone radio-controlled helicopter in the mid-1980s. Abramson loved flying this aircraft as a child, and he has been an aviation enthusiast for as long as he can remember.<\/div>\nDerek Abramson<\/div>\n<\/figcaption><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\nAbramson\u2019s expertise, built through service in the U.S. Navy and the aerospace industry, centers on technical oversight, management, and system design. Hall is known for creative approaches to problem solving and uses practical methods to address technical challenges and maintain flight safety. Link specializes in designing and fabricating research vehicles and draws on extensive hands-on experience to understand what works, and what does not, in flight.\u00a0<\/p>\n
On weekends, the team often tinkers in their garages or hangars building radio-control aircraft, researching hobby trends, or exploring new technologies. You might see them flying their creations at hobby events or attending trade shows. Their passion for flight brought Abramson, Hall, and Link together years before they one-by-one joined NASA more than a decade ago, though each discovered that spark in a different way.<\/p>\n
Early influences<\/strong><\/h2>\nAbramson\u2019s interest began as a child with rubber-band powered stick and tissue aircraft and radio-controlled models. His early aviation pursuits led to his first solo flight while in high school and a pilot\u2019s license. In the Navy, he worked on multiple aircraft, including EA-6B and the F-18, as an avionics technician. As an engineer, he supported the B-1 and CV-22 Osprey aircraft flight tests. As an intern at NASA Armstrong, he used his operational and engineering experience on remotely piloted and autonomous aircraft.<\/p>\n
Hall\u2019s interest grew after seeing historic aircraft including the Mach 3 SR-71 fly over his elementary school playground and watching Space Shuttle Challenger land from above his dad\u2019s shoulders. He has built and flown model and remotely piloted aircraft for as long as he can remember. His reputation flying radio-controlled hobby aircraft at fly-ins and trade events led to an offer to fly subscale aircraft at NASA.<\/p>\n
<\/a><\/figure>Long before they helped shape NASA\u2019s future aerospace breakthroughs, Derek Abramson, Justin Hall, and Justin Link were in their garages and homes building radio\u2011controlled aircraft, testing new ideas, and flying their creations at hobby events. That early passion now fuels the work of NASA\u2019s Dale Reed Subscale Flight Research Laboratory at the agency\u2019s Armstrong Flight Research Center in Edwards, California.<\/p>\n
At NASA Armstrong\u2019s subscale flight lab<\/a>, the team turns that lifelong enthusiasm into mission-focused innovation. The laboratory supports research that ranges from advanced navigation systems for future landings on the Moon and Mars to emerging aeronautics concepts that need quick, low-cost evaluation. NASA\u2019s small, remotely piloted and autonomous aircraft allow engineers to explore ideas that could be difficult, risky or expensive to test at full scale.<\/p>\n Abramson, Hall, and Link play key roles in that work. Abramson serves as the laboratory\u2019s chief engineer. Hall is the chief pilot. Link is a drone pilot. Together, they integrate emerging aerospace technologies with the lab\u2019s subscale aircraft fleet and, when needed, design and build aircraft or flight experiments to evaluate new concepts.<\/p>\n Abramson\u2019s expertise, built through service in the U.S. Navy and the aerospace industry, centers on technical oversight, management, and system design. Hall is known for creative approaches to problem solving and uses practical methods to address technical challenges and maintain flight safety. Link specializes in designing and fabricating research vehicles and draws on extensive hands-on experience to understand what works, and what does not, in flight.\u00a0<\/p>\n On weekends, the team often tinkers in their garages or hangars building radio-control aircraft, researching hobby trends, or exploring new technologies. You might see them flying their creations at hobby events or attending trade shows. Their passion for flight brought Abramson, Hall, and Link together years before they one-by-one joined NASA more than a decade ago, though each discovered that spark in a different way.<\/p>\n Abramson\u2019s interest began as a child with rubber-band powered stick and tissue aircraft and radio-controlled models. His early aviation pursuits led to his first solo flight while in high school and a pilot\u2019s license. In the Navy, he worked on multiple aircraft, including EA-6B and the F-18, as an avionics technician. As an engineer, he supported the B-1 and CV-22 Osprey aircraft flight tests. As an intern at NASA Armstrong, he used his operational and engineering experience on remotely piloted and autonomous aircraft.<\/p>\n Hall\u2019s interest grew after seeing historic aircraft including the Mach 3 SR-71 fly over his elementary school playground and watching Space Shuttle Challenger land from above his dad\u2019s shoulders. He has built and flown model and remotely piloted aircraft for as long as he can remember. His reputation flying radio-controlled hobby aircraft at fly-ins and trade events led to an offer to fly subscale aircraft at NASA.<\/p>\nSkilled team<\/strong><\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/figure>Early influences<\/strong><\/h2>\n